GW Method 3

Wilfried · Subject: Re: GW Method 3 Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:39 am

yeshua wrote:

When looking closely at the pictures of your red crystals Wilfried I relized I've seen them before. I read of a fusible salt from GW that is suppose to make brittle metals. Based off that I messed around with GW and was able to materialize crystals much like what you show us. Is there a way to test if these are the correct red crystals? Besides making the powder of projection. The crystals I got dissolved in water and where very brittle. They also sorta stuck together and absorbed some of the red color of the mixture.

If what I found is the correct dry alkahest it means the stone can be made much quicker and easier.

Yes afaik these crystals can be made by chemicals ... or rather the putrefication can be helped and sped up by chemicals.
At the moment I am drying up the crystals, and still thinking about how to "seal" my crucible.

I will melt these crystals with gold because ultimately a projection will be proof of the successful work and for me it's way easier to distinguish gold from silver.

Wilfried

Wilfried · Subject: Re: GW Method 3 Sat Jan 23, 2010 10:02 am

Zosimo wrote:

Did your materia prima, Wilfried, come from a mine in your zone or from a younger geologic area?
And... have you prepaired yourself in those days during the excavations with prayers and a particular diet?
And do you think that heating my yellow kind of crystals with luna or sun leaves can be a typical wasting of time?
Zosimo

Hi Zosimo,
we are talking about GW. Our philosophical dew has already everything in it we need for our Opus.
I collected about 3000ml some was from the morning some from during the day. (no special diet, and no alcohol or wine)
If you have enough crystals simply try a few grams with silver in a "sealed" crucible.

Wilfried

Zosimo · Number of posts: 283 Registration date: 2009-01-19

Hi Wilfried,
Yes we are talking about GW and the idea that some authors had to collect it from younger source.
Now I remember that I didn't used any dew for re-make the crystals bur only heat & fridge.
Let's see with a little silver.

My idea about the crucible it's simply: to realize it's enough the help of an ironsmith.
My ironsmith it's a very cute mate, quick and inexpensive + a little lutum and refractory cement + propane torch.

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I'm curious to hear about those salts Yoshua is talking about.
For any infos you can send to bonenove@yahoo.it. Thank you.
If you need a crucible just email me, I'll send you for little money.

Zosimo

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And can your ironsmith make them 4 or 5" innder diameter?

Zosimo · Number of posts: 283 Registration date: 2009-01-19

Hi Word2give,
I don't want to use the forum for selling etc..
I already send you the answer.

Have a good Opus.

Zosimo

yeshua · Number of posts: 61 Registration date: 2009-01-16

Zosimo. In google books type in fusible salt of (then the name of the GW) and it should be the first one to come up. There are a few more sources I studied, I'll post them later as I find them.

Wilfried · Subject: Re: GW Method 3 Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:44 pm

I tried to dry out the crystals but the mass is rather gum like now and not brittle at all. It seems like purifying is quite important.

Also I actually just evaporated it down.
So ill gonna reunite it with the spirit and distill the spirit off again this time watching the distillation until supersaturated (film forms).

Wilfried

Zosimo · Number of posts: 283 Registration date: 2009-01-19

Wilfried wrote: So ill gonna reunite it with the spirit and distill the spirit off again this time watching the distillation until supersaturated (film forms).

Or... could be enough (+ a little spirit) to evaporate the stuff and then put again in the fridge and, eventually, again, evaporate and...
With the crystals obtained by evaporation method it works like that. It couldn't be the same case?
Just to be prepared.
I'm fementing 6 lt of GW so I'll start in March with this Opus.

Ah, one thing: do you remember bros. the last suggestion about the crucible?
It was
non metal for dew
and could be metal for GW. I'm right?

Zosimo

NDC · Subject: Re: GW Method 3 Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:34 am

If your crystals are more like a gooey mess and not nice and brittle then you need to simply dissolve them in clean hot water (just enough water to dissolve, no more) then place in the fridge to crystallize again. Repeat this until you crystals no longer contain any of the gooey stuff. All the gunk will mess up the process of converting the gold if you heat intend to melt the gold with the crystals to make the Stone.

yeshua · Number of posts: 61 Registration date: 2009-01-16

Hey nick, is there any way to test the crystals to see if they are correct? I've found a very simple way to get crystals from GW. They are orange-red and quite brittle. they dissolve in water to. I've made them but they didn't look like the ones in the pictures so I assumed they weren't the correct ones.

I'm trying to make them once again so I can show a picture but I'm having some trouble right now. If they are correct then it means theres a very simple way to get these precious gems.

Wilfried · Subject: Re: GW Method 3 Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:14 pm

Ok, I redissolved my mass with my GW spirit and distilled of the spirit until a few specks/film started to form on top in the distillation flask.

thats the sign of saturation

And here are some pictures of the crystals sprouting this time as intended:

Wilfried

bonifaesh · Subject: Nice photos Wilfred Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:12 am

These look great, it's neat to see the crystals forming this way. Thank you for posting these.

Bill

Chrysopee · Subject: Re: GW Method 3 Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:51 am

Thank you very much Wilfried. I do not quite distillates.

Chysopée

spilo · Subject: Re: GW Method 3 Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:48 am

yes it looks very nice. well done,.

Wilfried · Subject: Re: GW Method 3 Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:51 pm

I wonder if the crystals are really supposed to be red or that they just appear reddish due to impurities.

It seems like they are actually rather transparent white.
They are described as: transparent, bright red, dark red though

Also this time I used a rather small glass for crystallization therefor the liquid stood higher.
This actually seems to work better because the crystals grow upwards as high as the liquid stands.
Also the liquid stood totally uninterrupted in the fridge for over 7 days, I checked after 1 day and 2 days and nearly nothing had sprouted and I was really surprised when I checked again 5 days later.

Wilfried